Cyan comments on Rationality Quotes January 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Cyan 07 January 2010 08:59:15PM *  7 points [-]

Humans are social animals. Inducing shame and discomfort might be useful if the believer is isolated away from other believers and cannot rely on them for emotional support. If not, he or she will likely relieve their shame by seeking the company of fellow believers, reinforcing the affiliation with the believing group.

Comment author: Furcas 07 January 2010 09:10:19PM 0 points [-]

Or they'll give up their belief to avoid looking like a nut. I know several Christian fundamentalists who've done just that. Unfortunately, since 'moderate' or 'liberal' religion is still respected, they just became Christians of a different type instead of atheists.

How exactly do you expect to make humanity acknowledge the ridiculousness of religion if you yourself continue to act as if it was a respectable position?

Comment author: Cyan 07 January 2010 09:20:39PM *  0 points [-]

Does your experience accord with my (implied) retrodiction that the fundamentalists who gave up their extreme beliefs could not easily retreat to a more comfortable social milieu?

Comment author: Furcas 07 January 2010 09:31:25PM 0 points [-]

Well, I was thinking of some of my fellow students, back in college. IIRC their families were mostly fundies (and lived in the same city) so, not really.

Anyway, could you answer my question? It wasn't rhetorical.

Comment author: Cyan 07 January 2010 09:37:00PM 0 points [-]

Families are a special case -- one doesn't get to choose them, and one might not particularly like them.

I neither act as if religious belief were a respectable position nor expect to make humanity acknowledge the ridiculousness of religion.