Are you saying that before the gay movement was high status, most of its representatives acted like homophobia was simply an opinion with which they disagreed, but which they respected nonetheless?
No, I am saying that whatever displays of scorn they made didn't help them gain the sympathy of non-homosexuals, and probably hurt them.
Religious beliefs are, indeed, crazy. I don't see how this fact can ever be acknowledged by the rest of humanity if no one actually acts like it's true, even those who accept it!
I agree that we should act as though religious beliefs are crazy (in Eliezer's sense of the word). The question is, what does it mean to act that way? That is, what is the most productive response to crazy beliefs? I expect that it's not generally contempt.
No, I am saying that whatever displays of scorn they made didn't help them gain the sympathy of non-homosexuals, and probably hurt them.
It may not have gotten them sympathy, but I think labeling the opposing view as bigotry and a phobia could easily have gotten them a higher status, even in the early days of the movement.
Honestly though, I have no idea where to find the information we need to settle this disagreement.
...I agree that we should act as though religious beliefs are crazy (in Eliezer's sense of the word). The question is, what does it mean t
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