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Comment author: Larks 09 January 2010 07:07:22PM 6 points [-]

Economics growth and resource shortages. Many times it's seemed like we're imminently going to run out of some resource (coal in the 1890s, food scares in the 60s, global cooling, peak oil) and economic growth would grind to a halt. The details supported the view (existing coal seams were running low, etc.) but a reference class of other 20 year periods after 1800 would have suggested, correctly, that the economy would continue to grow at about 2-3%.

Alternatively, politics. Periodically it seems like one party has achieved a permanent stranglehold on power- the republican revolution, Obama a year ago, the conservatives in 1983, Labour in 1945, 1997 – but ignoring the details of the situation, and just looking at other decades, we’d’ve guessed correctly that the other party would rise again.

Recessions. While going into a recession, it always appears to be the Worst Thing Ever, and to signal the End of Capitalism; worse than 1929 for sure. Ignoring the details and looking at other recessions, we get a better, more moderate prediction.

Comment author: pdf23ds 10 January 2010 12:10:15AM 2 points [-]

Periodically it seems like one party has achieved a permanent stranglehold on power- the republican revolution, Obama a year ago

Seems to who? I've never noticed anyone taking this opinion.

Comment author: gwern 10 January 2010 04:15:38PM *  3 points [-]
Comment author: pdf23ds 11 January 2010 03:37:39AM 1 point [-]

Hmm. I think I would have preferred to italicize "noticed" rather than what you did.

Comment author: gwern 11 January 2010 04:43:11AM *  3 points [-]

Perhaps. But I am far more annoyed by people who know better throwing around absolute terms, when they also know counterexamples are available in literally 3 or 4 seconds - if they would stop being lazy and would just look.

(I'm seriously considering registering an account 'LetMeFuckingGoogleThatForYou' to handle these sorts of replies; LW may be big enough now that such role-accounts are needed.)

Comment author: DonGeddis 12 January 2010 12:13:56AM *  2 points [-]

Already done: JustFuckingGoogleIt

Comment author: pdf23ds 11 January 2010 04:57:45AM *  2 points [-]

The absolute terms were appropriate, referring as they did only to my personal experience. It was only intended as a weak, throwaway comment. I suppose you might be annoyed that I think such anecdotes are worthy of mention.

Edited to add: If you'd quoted instead "Seems to who?" I wouldn't have found your comment at all objectionable.

Comment author: Zack_M_Davis 11 January 2010 05:17:57AM 2 points [-]

(I'm seriously considering registering an account 'LetMeFuckingGoogleThatForYou' to handle these sorts of replies; LW may be big enough now that such role-accounts are needed.)

Sockpuppetry considered harmful.

Comment author: gwern 11 January 2010 02:01:47PM 1 point [-]
Comment author: Emile 24 October 2010 06:20:37PM 0 points [-]

You can link to searches with Let Me Google That for You

Comment author: michaelkeenan 10 January 2010 04:26:54PM 1 point [-]

I've seen Arnold Kling, GMU economics blogger (colleague of Robin Hanson, I think), argue something like that.

Comment author: Larks 10 January 2010 09:21:19PM 1 point [-]

This was the example that first sprung to mind, though recently he's admitted he's not so sure.