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Who are you responding to? I am inclined to believe it is physicalists such as myself, but in that case your remark that about having "reached a dead end and you're desperately banging your heads against the wall" is a non sequitur. I'm not banging my head against the wall due to a dissatisfaction with my worldview, I'm banging my head against the wall due to a failure to find agreement with Mitchell_Porter.
What follows is the abstract from "Room for a view: on the metaphysical subject of personal identity", Daniel Kolak.
I think it is safe to say that this was not written for a general audience. Before I spend any more of my time trying to decipher text with no expectation of enjoyment, I would like to know - in lay terms - what bearing it has upon Mitchell_Porter's remarks.
Edit: If, as Jack states, there is no relation, it would behoove you to write a summary in lay terms as a top level post rather than drop it into a merely tangentially related discussion.
"Frameworks for a new theory" are too dear at ten a penny, and the above text seems to me as worthless as anything output by the Postmodernism Generator. The other sources that Alexxarian linked seem to me no more interesting.
A more readable text by Kolak, which I see was linked by Alexxarian in an earlier comment, is "I am You". The pages available on Google may give a measure of whether Kolak is worth reading.
Wikipedia describes him as "one of the most prolific philosophers in the world". I tremble! Actually, some of the things mentioned in the wiki article look interesting, but the article clearly fails NPOV, being copied from one on croatia.org lauding this Famous Croatian. Certainly, his productivity is awesome.
Googling Kolak I can see he indeed holds the very strange view that I am identical to you. But this particular paper basically consists of a decent outline of the present personal identity debate and a brief statement of Kolak's own view which for me, is a vague, mysterious description of a view that basically says "I am the the thing that the indexical "I" points to in this sentence." Which is a perfectly fine view except that it answers hardly any questions (My reply is "Duh, now is that thing a body or a psychological state?") Then somehow in the remaining paragraphs this becomes "the brain is not sufficient for personal identity" and strange, out of context Wittgenstein quotes. Anyway, it didn't really have anything to do with this discussion.
A note for those not familiar with Wittgenstein: Many of his quotes are strange and out-of-context in the original writing. It's part of the charm.