Cyan comments on Consciousness - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Mitchell_Porter 14 January 2010 05:40:53AM 1 point [-]

There is thus nothing particularly problematic about saying, "So, I don't get how this whole consciousness thing works, but there's probably no magic involved," just as there's no magic (excepting EY's magic) involved in putting this site together.

If I were to say to you that negative numbers can be made by adding together positive numbers, you just have to add them together in the right way - that would sound strange and wrong, yes? If you start at 1, and keep adding 1, you do not expect your sum to equal -1 (or the square root of -1, or an apple) at any stage. When people say that they do not see how piling up atoms can give rise to color, meaning, consciousness, etc., they are engaged in this sort of reasoning. They're saying: I may not know every property that very large numbers / very large piles of atoms would exhibit, but it would be magic to get that property from those ingredients.

Comment author: Cyan 15 January 2010 02:58:53PM 2 points [-]

Can you clarify why

When people say that they do not see how piling up atoms can give rise to color, meaning, consciousness, etc., they are engaged in this sort of reasoning.

does not also apply to the piling up of degrees of freedom in a quantum monad?

I have another question, which I expect someone has already asked somewhere, but I doubt I'll be able to find your response, so I'll just ask again. Would a simulation of a conscious quantum monad by a classical computation also be conscious?