Nick_Tarleton comments on Savulescu: "Genetically enhance humanity or face extinction" - Less Wrong
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Explaining to them why you believe they're making a mistake is justified. Interfering if they choose to continue anyway, not.
I don't recognize a moral responsibility to take action to help others, only a moral responsibility not to take action to harm others. That may indeed be the root of our disagreement.
This is tangential to the original debate though, which is about forcing something on others against their will because you perceive it to be for the good of the collective.
I don't want to nitpick but if you are free to create a hypothetical example to support your case you should be able to do better than this. What kind of idiot employer would fire someone for missing one day of work? I understand you are trying to make a point that an individual's choices have impacts beyond himself but the weakness of your argument is reflected in the weakness of your example.
This probably ties back again to the root of our disagreement you identified earlier. Your hypothetical individual is not depriving society as a whole of anything because he doesn't owe them anything. People make many suboptimal choices but the benefits we accrue from the wise choices of others are not our god-given right. If we receive a boon due to the actions of others that is to be welcomed. It does not mean that we have a right to demand they labour for the good of the collective at all times.
I chose this example because I can recognize a somewhat coherent case for enforcing vaccinations. I still don't think the case is strong enough to justify compulsion. It's not something I have a great deal of interest in however so I haven't looked for a detailed breakdown of the actual risks imposed on those who are not able to be vaccinated. There would be a level at which I could be persuaded but I suspect the actual risk is far below that level. I'm somewhat agnostic on the related issue of whether parents should be allowed to make this decision for their children - I lean that way only because the alternative of allowing the government to make the decision is less palatable. A side benefit is that allowing parents to make the decision probably improves the gene pool to some extent.