Vladimir_Nesov comments on Normal Cryonics - Less Wrong

58 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 19 January 2010 07:08PM

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 20 January 2010 01:40:26AM *  2 points [-]

Because I want to avoid bad experiences much more than I want to have good experiences, being dead doesn't seem like all that bad a deal.

This rejection doesn't work: if the world of the future changes so that bad experiences don't happen, and good experiences are better, it's in your interest to see it. Furthermore, do you prefer your current disposition, or you'd rather it'd change?

Comment author: CronoDAS 20 January 2010 02:26:28AM 0 points [-]

I don't know if I want it to change or not, but that doesn't seem like something to worry about because I don't know how to change my disposition and I don't know how to go about figuring how to change my disposition.

Comment author: wedrifid 20 January 2010 02:37:10AM 11 points [-]

You know what? Someone should just go hunt down CronoDAS and forcibly cryo-suspend him. It'd be doing everyone a favour. He'd get to live in a future where he doesn't have to be geek-emo, a perceived 'murder' would be less shameful than a suicide for his parents and we wouldn't have the same old hand wringing conversation all the time.

See you on the other side. (Or not, as the case may be.)

Comment author: Bindbreaker 20 January 2010 02:47:32AM *  4 points [-]

This post was obviously a joke, but "we should kill this guy so as to avoid social awkwardness" is probably a bad sentiment, revival or no revival.

Comment author: wedrifid 20 January 2010 03:08:37AM 3 points [-]

On the other hand, "we should (legally) kill this guy so as to save his life" is unethical and I would never do it. But it is a significant question and the kind of reasoning that is relevant to all sorts of situations.

Comment author: CronoDAS 20 January 2010 04:13:30AM *  1 point [-]

we wouldn't have the same old hand wringing conversation all the time

Should I stop talking about this here?

Comment author: wedrifid 20 January 2010 04:24:25AM 6 points [-]

No, I don't mind at all. As long as you don't mind that I don't treat this specific desire of yours with sombre dignity. I do, after all, think a death wish as an alternative to cryonic revival where your mental health can be restored is silly and something to laugh at (and so lower in status and discourage without being actually aggressive.)

Comment author: CronoDAS 20 January 2010 04:34:58AM *  1 point [-]

Well, as long as I'm being funny...

Comment author: bogdanb 20 January 2010 10:12:18PM 1 point [-]

Not to nitpick, but I think wedrifid was implying “ridiculous” rather than “funny”.

;-p