MrHen comments on That Magical Click - Less Wrong

58 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 20 January 2010 04:35PM

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Comment author: MrHen 20 January 2010 06:50:29PM 6 points [-]

I suspect you need to travel some (most?) of the inferential distance to becoming a rationalist (one way or another) before you can start clicking on ideas and concepts you're hearing for the first time.

Depending on whether my "clicks" and EY's "clicks" are the same, this isn't true. My studies in Math and Computer Science were full of clicks and the people around me would click at different points in the more complicated Math classes. Some of these people were certainly not rationalist. They were very smart, but certainly not rationalist.

Comment author: Lightwave 21 January 2010 12:14:10AM 2 points [-]

I'm not sure what you mean by "clicks" in Math classes. It looks like you're using "click" for "understand" or "gain insight"? Whether and when you click in complicated Math classes depends on how you manage to grasp math concepts and follow and connect them logically (or something of this sort). Whereas EY defines "click" as a "a very short chain of reasoning", which in the minds of most people gets derailed. What I'm suggesting is that it gets derailed by other preconceptions that interfere with the short reasoning chain.

Comment author: MrHen 21 January 2010 01:39:22AM 2 points [-]

It looks like you're using "click" for "understand" or "gain insight"?

Sort of, but on a whole different scale than I use for the words "understand" or "gain insight." So much so that I would never switch one word out for the other.

For me, "click" is to "understand" as "fly" is to "jump." You could say that flight is a form of jumping, but all the details are different and they have drastically different results.

Whereas EY defines "click" as a "a very short chain of reasoning", which in the minds of most people gets derailed.

Yeah, that isn't how I am using click at all.