arundelo comments on That Magical Click - Less Wrong

58 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 20 January 2010 04:35PM

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Comment author: arundelo 22 January 2010 12:13:17AM *  26 points [-]

To properly understand how traceroute works one would need to know about the TTL field

I did learn about this on my own that day, but the original confusion was at a quite different level: I asked whether the times on each line measured the distance between that router and the previous one, or between that router and the source. His answer: "Both." A charitable interpretation of this would be "They measure round trip times between the source and that router, but it's just a matter of arithmetic to use those to estimate round trip times between any two routers in the list" -- but I asked him if this was what he meant and he said no. We went back and forth for a while until he told me to just research it myself.

Edit: I think I remember him saying something like "You're expecting it to be logical, but things aren't always logical".

Comment author: denisbider 25 January 2010 03:43:52PM 34 points [-]

Jesus Christ. "Things aren't always logical." The hallmark of a magic-thinker. Of course everything is always logical. The only case it doesn't seem that way is when one lacks understanding.