thomblake comments on Bizarre Illusions - Less Wrong

11 Post author: MrHen 27 January 2010 06:25PM

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Comment author: thomblake 28 January 2010 07:48:56PM *  4 points [-]

I was talking about the paintings that look like a 3-year-old made a mess, yet get classified as art, and noting that an art class probably wouldn't convince me this is appropriate.

What specific criticism of that claim do you have?

Short version:

High art is about a lot of things, not least of which is impact on the viewer.

In the case of Pollock, for instance, a lot of the interesting thing that was going on there, was that he depicted a process - not by painting a representation of himself doing it, but by actually doing it. You can look at a Pollock and see how he constructed it without being distracted by exactly what he was trying to construct. And being able to see that aspect of art and be aware of it, will in turn give you a greater appreciation of medieval cathedrals and Greek sculpture.

Possibly related: no one knows what science doesn't know

Comment author: thomblake 28 January 2010 08:34:00PM 2 points [-]

To add to this with a similar example, consider that some people prefer listening to foreign language vocalists because it allows one to appreciate the sound of the vocal instrument without focusing on the words.

Comment author: [deleted] 29 January 2010 11:42:46PM 0 points [-]

To me, most music sounds like a foreign language (though one that sounds exactly like English), unless I'm familiar with the lyrics beforehand, in which case I can "hear" them just fine.

Comment author: Alicorn 29 January 2010 11:49:08PM 2 points [-]

Like this?

Comment author: [deleted] 31 January 2010 05:41:34AM 0 points [-]

Probably.

Comment author: SilasBarta 29 January 2010 11:54:02PM -1 points [-]

Yes, most people don't care much about the actual lyrics. Which explains the phenomenon thomblake was trying to use for tenuous support of another hypothesis, yet remains modded to 3 for some reason (7 if you include his parent comment).

Comment author: SilasBarta 28 January 2010 09:54:01PM 0 points [-]

Right, because the words (i.e. the lyrical semantics, as differentiated from the qualities of the sounds the words make) are a small, perhaps negligible component of what people like about many of these songs.

If you were trying to draw some other inference from this fact, you're going to have to be more specific about why that inference follows.