bgrah449 comments on Bizarre Illusions - Less Wrong

11 Post author: MrHen 27 January 2010 06:25PM

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Comment author: bgrah449 28 January 2010 11:25:24PM -1 points [-]

But why do those things bother you, except in that you don't like being told you're low status unless you jump through certain hoops?

Comment author: mattnewport 28 January 2010 11:33:55PM 3 points [-]

Arts funding with tax dollars is one particularly direct example.

Comment author: SilasBarta 28 January 2010 11:31:09PM 5 points [-]

Do I really need to explain why it's bad for people to be wealthy and high status depsite never having produced anything of value, and spend all their time perpetuating what is essentially an information cascade?

Comment author: bgrah449 28 January 2010 11:42:16PM 2 points [-]

Quite a judgment there, "nothing of value"! Because people have to be trained to appreciate it, it's of no value?

Comment author: SilasBarta 28 January 2010 11:48:18PM *  1 point [-]

It's not just the fact that people have to be trained. After all, people must be trained in order to read or use a computer.

The problem is that there's no clear standard for what counts as successful training. You can check for whether someone can read (at a given level) using tests that everyone will agree about for the results. How do you know when someone's gotten the right "art appreciation training"? "Oh, well, you see, you have to join our club, and hand around only our people for years and years, and then we still get fooled by monkeys ..."

Comment author: bgrah449 28 January 2010 11:56:28PM -1 points [-]

How do you know there's no clear standard? You're not an artist.

Comment author: SilasBarta 28 January 2010 11:57:33PM 1 point [-]

Well, my first hint was when the work of a monkey was mistaken for that of an award-winning artist...

Comment author: bgrah449 29 January 2010 12:08:52AM 0 points [-]

I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. Why shouldn't I?

Comment author: AdeleneDawner 28 January 2010 11:58:16PM *  1 point [-]

Falsifiability, basically. Or lack thereof.