Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on A Much Better Life? - Less Wrong

61 Post author: Psychohistorian 03 February 2010 08:01PM

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Comment author: GuySrinivasan 04 February 2010 06:55:30PM *  4 points [-]

Very probably. I don't know what I'd do because I don't know what his preferences were. Although... a quick Google search reveals this quote:

To me there has never been a higher source of earthly honor or distinction than that connected with advances in science.

I find it likely, then, that he preferred us not to obstruct advances in science in 2010 than for us to obstruct advances in science in 2010. I don't know how much more, maybe it's attenuated a lot compared to the strength of lots of his other preferences.

The harm would manifest itself as a higher measure of 2010 worlds in which science is obstructed, which is something (I think) Newton opposed.

(Or, if you like, my time-travel-causing e.g. 1700 to be the sort of world which deterministically produces more science-obstructed-2010s than the 1700 I could have caused.)

Comment author: brazil84 04 February 2010 06:57:29PM 1 point [-]

Ok, so you are saying that one can harm Isaac Newton today by going out and obstructing the advance of science?

Comment author: GuySrinivasan 04 February 2010 07:01:57PM 6 points [-]

Yep. I'll bite that bullet until shown a good reason I should not.

Comment author: brazil84 04 February 2010 07:20:44PM 1 point [-]

I suppose that's the nub of the disagreement. I don't believe it's possible to do anything in 2010 to harm Isaac Newton.

Comment author: RobbBB 22 January 2013 05:58:25AM -1 points [-]

Is this a disagreement about metaphysics, or about how best to define the word 'harm'?

Comment author: brazil84 24 January 2013 11:03:22PM 0 points [-]

A little bit of both, I suppose. One needs to define "harm" in a way which is true to the spirit of the prisoner's dilemma. The underlying question is whether one can set up a prisoner's dilemma between a past version of the self and a future version of the self.