Torben comments on A Much Better Life? - Less Wrong

61 Post author: Psychohistorian 03 February 2010 08:01PM

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Comment author: knb 03 February 2010 08:27:18PM *  19 points [-]

If Gamma and Omega are really so mystified by why humans don't jack into the matrix, that implies that they themselves have values that make them want to jack into the matrix. They clearly haven't jacked in, so the question becomes "Why?".

If they haven't jacked in due to their own desire to pursue the "greater good", then surely they could see why humans might prefer the real world.

Comment author: Torben 04 February 2010 07:42:52PM *  4 points [-]

If Gamma and Omega are really so mystified by why humans don't jack into the matrix, that implies that they themselves have values that make them want to jack into the matrix.

Just because they estimate humans would want to jack in doesn't mean they themselves would want to.

Comment author: knb 04 February 2010 08:02:46PM 2 points [-]

But are humans mystified when other creatures behave similarly to themselves?

"Those male elk are fighting over a mate! How utterly bizarre!"

Comment author: Torben 06 February 2010 05:12:15PM 3 points [-]

Presumably, Gamma and Omega have a less biased world-view in general and model of us specifically than non-trained humans do of elk. Humans have been known to be surprised at e.g. animal altruism directed at species members or humans.

I hope for the sake of all Omega-based arguments that Omega is assumed to be less biased than us.