epigeios comments on A Much Better Life? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: deconigo 09 February 2010 12:14:22PM 5 points [-]

How can you tell the difference?

Comment author: epigeios 01 December 2011 10:55:27AM -2 points [-]

I, personally, tell the difference by paying attention to and observing reality without making any judgments. Then, I compare that with my expectations based on my judgments. If there is a difference, then I am thinking I am interacting instead of interacting.

Over time, I stop making judgments. And in essence, I stop thinking about interacting with the world, and just interact, and see what happens.

The less judgments I make, the more difficult the Turing Test becomes; as it is no longer about meeting my expectations, but instead satisfying my desired level of complexity. This, by the nature of real-world interaction, is a complicated set of interacting chaotic equations; And each time I remove a judgment from my repertoire, the equation gains a level of complexity, gains another strange attractor to interact with.

At a certain point of complexity, the equation becomes impossible except by a "god".

Now, if an AI passes THAT Turing Test, I will consider it a real person.

Comment author: Nighteyes5678 08 June 2012 09:15:35PM *  1 point [-]

I, personally, tell the difference by paying attention to and observing reality without making any judgments. Then, I compare that with my expectations based on my judgments. If there is a difference, then I am thinking I am interacting instead of interacting.

Over time, I stop making judgments. And in essence, I stop thinking about interacting with the world, and just interact, and see what happens.

I think it'd be useful to hear an example of "observing reality without making judgements" and "observing reality with making judgements". I'm having trouble figuring out what you believe the difference to be.