Unknowns comments on Logical Rudeness - Less Wrong

65 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 29 January 2010 06:48AM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 29 January 2010 09:10:06PM 5 points [-]

In that particular case, Eliezer was exaggerating

I suppose that must have happened sometime, but next time you find yourself postulating this as part of an explanation, please stop, notice, and feel a little confused.

Actually, that goes for everyone in this thread deconstructing my supposed mistake, based on (a) a misquotation (b) not realizing that every algorithm which can be "improved by randomizing" can in fact be improved further by derandomizing (except in cases where an intelligent opponent can predict a given set of bits if they are produced by a "deterministic" process, but not predict the same bits if they are produced by a "random" process). I sometimes make mistakes, but I also sometimes don't, and if you can hold both possibilities in mind without it destroying your internal critic, it will probably help in the long run.

Comment author: Unknowns 29 January 2010 09:21:55PM *  3 points [-]

Ok, but there some random algorithms which cannot be improved by derandomizing, precisely because the random algorithm does just as well as any deterministic algorithm: for example, if there is some event that has an exact 50% chance of happening, all algorithms, random or not, do equally well at guessing whether it will happen or not.

In other words, such a case doesn't satisfy the condition that the algorithm can be "improved by randomizing."

Comment author: Alicorn 29 January 2010 09:28:14PM 3 points [-]

I take it that such an algorithm couldn't be improved in accuracy, but I expect any randomized algorithm would be more cycle-intensive than a constant rule of "guess that event X will happen" - which will perform just as well.