komponisto comments on Logical Rudeness - Less Wrong

65 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 29 January 2010 06:48AM

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Comment author: komponisto 30 January 2010 02:58:44AM 9 points [-]

Other people are different.

Speaking for myself, I find it very unpleasant to be on the receiving end of crowing. Hence I have a much easier time admitting mistakes to people I particularly trust not to crow. (One of the nice things about LW is that there isn't much crowing here, which makes mind-changing and fessing up easier. I'd definitely like to keep it that way.)

Comment author: sketerpot 04 February 2010 02:01:31AM 10 points [-]

There's a really easy trick for conceding a debate without being crowed at. The trick is to admit that you were wrong, concisely explain the change you've made to your beliefs, and warmly thank the other person for taking the time to help you become correct about this. Even if they were a bit of a dick in the debate itself. Don't declare defeat; declare a mutual victory of truth.

Anybody who can crow about your defeat after that is a huge asshole, and furthermore this should be obvious to anybody watching.

(This trick also makes you feel better about changing your mind, because you've reclassified it as a victory. I've had a much easier time conceding debates ever since I adopted this habit and mindset.)

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 30 January 2010 07:35:58AM 3 points [-]

I wasn't born different, AFAIK. I've been training myself.

Though you know, even in the absence of training, I think a considerable majority of people wouldn't actually drop dead.

Comment author: Unknowns 30 January 2010 07:40:47AM 5 points [-]

Although according to Robin Hansen, low status significantly reduces life expectancy, so presumably every time someone crows, your life expectancy goes down by some amount.

Comment author: Wei_Dai 30 January 2010 09:24:24AM 2 points [-]

presumably every time someone crows, your life expectancy goes down by some amount

On the other hand, maybe your IQ goes up a few points.

Comment author: Kevin 30 January 2010 07:49:44AM 1 point [-]