PhilGoetz comments on Logical Rudeness - Less Wrong

65 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 29 January 2010 06:48AM

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 28 April 2010 02:51:53AM *  7 points [-]

IIRC, John Searle uses a subtle form of this in his rebuttal to rebuttals to his Chinese Room argument. He separates the attacks into different cases; then he uses one set of assumptions and definitions to rebut one case; then switches (without pointing it out) to a different set of assumptions and definitions to rebut another case. Neither set of assumptions and definitions is sufficient to rebut both cases.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 09 December 2011 06:48:04PM 1 point [-]

This can be valid if the assumptions are brought in by the rebuttals he's defending against, and those rebuttals make contradictory assumptions.

Comment author: tut 28 April 2010 06:03:37AM 0 points [-]

Do the sets of assumptions and definitions contradict each other, or can they all be seen as subsets of a single set of definitions and assumptions? If they contradict each other then pointing that out should be an effective argument in most of the contexts where Searle writes.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 28 April 2010 01:54:46PM 2 points [-]

I'm referring to Searle's responses to the responses to his article that were originally published in Brain and Behavioral Sciences 3, 1980. I studied them 20 years ago, but it would take me a long time to go back and re-analyze it to answer your question.

Comment author: tut 28 April 2010 02:42:32PM 0 points [-]

I wondered what you meant by different sets. I think that this answers my question (they might have been consistent). Thanks.