timtyler comments on You're Entitled to Arguments, But Not (That Particular) Proof - Less Wrong

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Comment author: timtyler 17 February 2010 06:16:30PM *  0 points [-]

Sure - and there's also black carbon:

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1938379,00.html

...and planting trees in the north:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=tropical-forests-cool-earth

Hopefully in due course we will have fusion and mirrors in space on our side as well.

I don't think anyone knows if a concerted effort could prevent reglaciation, though. If anyone wants to make the case that we should downplay the risk of reglaciation because we could avert it, I would say: prove it. This looks potentially extremely dangerous to the planet to me: show me that it is not.

Until we are much more confident in our climate control abilities, I think a safe distance is prudent. IMO, that involves at least melting Greenland.

Comment author: wedrifid 17 February 2010 06:21:36PM 0 points [-]

This looks potentially extremely dangerous to the planet to me: show me that it is not.

The planet? The planet is used to glaciers. It's the humans who may not like them.

Comment author: timtyler 17 February 2010 07:12:13PM 1 point [-]

I mostly mean the planet's lifeforms. Few living things like ice crystals. They typically rupture cell walls - causing rapid death.

Comment author: Clippy 17 February 2010 07:26:54PM 5 points [-]

You make a valid point, but you neglect to mention that the same temperature/pressure regimes that generate ice crystals also make metals (especially scrap metal alloys) very brittle and prone to cracking, not to mention long-term effects on malleability.

Kind of a big thing to leave off!

Comment author: CronoDAS 18 February 2010 02:01:11AM 0 points [-]

You have a point there. If you want to build something out of metal and not have it break - and there are lots of important things that can be made out of metal - a cold environment makes it harder.