ChristianKl comments on Rationality Quotes: February 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ChristianKl 01 February 2010 11:24:17AM -2 points [-]

Humans are born with a basic sense of arithmetic that evolved over millions of years. Arithmetic also doesn't happen to be very complex.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 01 February 2010 04:47:10PM 1 point [-]

To nitpick, arithmetic is a cultural invention just like all other tools.

Abstract: Does speaking a language without number words change the way speakers of that language perceive exact quantities? The Pirahã are an Amazonian tribe who have been previously studied for their limited numerical system [Gordon, P. (2004). Numerical cognition without words: Evidence from Amazonia. Science 306, 496–499]. We show that the Pirahã have no linguistic method whatsoever for expressing exact quantity, not even ‘‘one.” Despite this lack, when retested on the matching tasks used by Gordon, Pirahã speakers were able to perform exact matches with large numbers of objects perfectly but, as previously reported, they were inaccurate on matching tasks involving memory. These results suggest that language for exact number is a cultural invention rather than a linguistic universal, and that number words do not change our underlying representations of number but instead are a cognitive technology for keeping track of the cardinality of large sets across time, space, and changes in modality.

Comment author: ChristianKl 04 February 2010 10:46:31PM 0 points [-]

As far as I remember the children of the Pirahã performed better on arithmetric task than their parents.

There a lot of stuff like differentiating two monkey faces that small children are able to do but that gets lost when they grow up and those skills aren't used.