djcb comments on Applying utility functions to humans considered harmful - Less Wrong

26 Post author: Kaj_Sotala 03 February 2010 07:22PM

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Comment author: djcb 03 February 2010 09:33:19PM -1 points [-]

Agreed, but I'd say that people do have a utility function -- it's just that it may be so complex that it's better seen as a kind of metaphor than as a mathematical construct you can actual do something with.

I share your annoyance -- there seems to be a bias among some to use maths-derived language where it is not very helpful.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 05 February 2010 12:02:11AM -2 points [-]

If utility isn't a mathematical construct you can do something with, then it's an empty concept.

Comment author: djcb 06 February 2010 02:24:54PM 0 points [-]

You might still be able to determine a manageable utility function for a lower animal. For humans it's simply too complex -- at least in 2010, just like the function that predicts next week's weather.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 06 February 2010 06:50:13PM 0 points [-]

You might still be able to determine a manageable utility function for a lower animal.

I will believe this only when I see it done.

I do not expect to see it done, no matter how low the animal.