Wei_Dai comments on Shut Up and Divide? - Less Wrong

60 Post author: Wei_Dai 09 February 2010 08:09PM

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Comment author: MrHen 10 February 2010 02:44:58AM 1 point [-]

If your employer didn't hire you and instead gave the $10 to aid, then it wouldn't have had a service or produce to sell and therefore wouldn't have gotten that $10 in the first place.

Okay... this makes some sense. I had to work it out like this before I understood it:

  • My employer hires me
  • I do work
  • Employer gets stuff
  • Employer sells stuff
  • Employer pays me
  • I kill people

But I don't really think this addresses the problem. In this scenario, whoever bought the stuff my employer sold just killed a bunch of people. So... my original question gets changed to:

  • I work for an hour and get paid $10, but whoever bought the fruits of my labor just killed $10 worth of people
  • I buy the fruits of someone else's labor and kill $10 worth of people

Obviously this is simplifying economy and labor and yada, yada. We could go into more detail, but unless you think the answer lies in those details I would rather not.

Comment author: Wei_Dai 10 February 2010 03:12:06AM 5 points [-]

Yes, assuming that the fruits of your labor that was bought for $10 is another luxury (say a bottle of wine) instead of a necessity, then that person also killed $10 worth of people. Because suppose he had bought $10 worth of mosquito nets, then you could have worked as a mosquito net maker instead of a vintner, and you still would have gotten the $10. The two of you could have saved $20 worth of people, so not doing that is equivalent to each killing $10 worth of people.

Comment author: MrHen 10 February 2010 03:24:54AM 3 points [-]

Yeah, it finally clicked. The key point I was missing was that $10 costs time for me to obtain. By the time I obtain it, more people die.

Comment author: CarlShulman 10 February 2010 12:28:01PM 0 points [-]

Upvoted for clarity.