CronoDAS comments on Demands for Particular Proof: Appendices - Less Wrong

26 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 15 February 2010 07:58AM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 16 February 2010 07:48:07AM 10 points [-]

Um... that's a rather odd argument to make, considering steel, wheels, nuclear power, transistors, radio, lasers, books, LEDs...

Proteins are held together by van der Waals forces, which are much weaker than covalent bonds. Preliminary calculations show gargantuan opportunities for improvement (see Drexler's Nanosystems).

Comment author: CronoDAS 16 February 2010 08:12:05AM 4 points [-]

Um... that's a rather odd argument to make, considering steel, wheels, nuclear power, transistors, radio, lasers, books, LEDs...

::urge to play devil's advocate rising::

Well, our power sources still have some disadvantages when compared to cellular respiration - we can't yet build insect-size robots because we don't have a practical way to power them. And wheels are bad when there are no roads. Ever ridden a bicycle on rough terrain? It's awful. Also, how does the information storage density of DNA compare to books? As for LEDs, fireflies are still more efficient than anything humans designed. Steel? Spider silk has a higher tensile strength. Given the constraints that biological systems operate under, they tend to be very, very good at what they do.

Transistors, though, I'll give you. ;)

Comment author: Christian_Szegedy 17 February 2010 12:06:34AM 2 points [-]

:)

Still, all your arguments could have been said half billionion years ago: There was DNA, super developed arthropods (maybe fireflies and spiders?) and plants that photosynthesized more efficiently than today's solar cells.

Still, evolution did not stop there, the Cambrian explosion and the rise of vertebrates was imminent...

Now we are having a new explosion which is based on a completely different paradigm, is a million times faster and accelerates.

Comment author: whpearson 17 February 2010 12:41:56AM 1 point [-]

Nit-pick: 500 million years ago the Cambrian explosion had happened already. It was 530 million years ago.