ciphergoth comments on Open Thread: February 2010, part 2 - Less Wrong

10 Post author: CronoDAS 16 February 2010 08:29AM

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Comment author: Furcas 16 February 2010 05:21:51PM 3 points [-]

It's the usual 'Rapture of the Nerds' spiel.

Comment author: ciphergoth 16 February 2010 05:38:10PM *  2 points [-]

Thanks to you and whpearson for taking the time to find out so the rest of us don't have to. Voted timtyler down for wasting your and our time.

Edit: removed downvote, see below.

Comment author: timtyler 16 February 2010 09:37:01PM *  3 points [-]

Er, this is pretty relevant and on-topic material, IMHO!

Jaron Lanier is a fruitcake - but I figure most participants here already knew that.

You may not personally be interested in what famous geek critics have to say about "the Tech World's New Religion" - but it seems bad to assume that everyone here is like that.

Comment author: ciphergoth 16 February 2010 10:38:36PM 5 points [-]

Hmm, I didn't see it that way. Removed downvote. But videos are a pain; you could do us a favour next time by saying a few more words about whether you're recommending it or just posting FYI. Otherwise there's a Gricean implication that you judge it worth our time, I think.

Comment author: SilasBarta 16 February 2010 11:19:26PM *  8 points [-]

There should be a policy, or strong norm, of "No summary, no link" when starting a thread with a suggested link. That summary should tell the key insights gained, and what about it you found unique.

I hate having to read a long article -- or worse, listen to a long recording -- and find out it's not much different from what I've heard a thousand times before. (That happens more than I would expect here.) Of course, you shouldn't withhold a link just because Silas (or anyone else) already read something similar ... but it tremendously helps to know in advance that it is something similar.

Comment author: timtyler 16 February 2010 10:58:42PM 2 points [-]

Yes, I don't like "teaser" links much either. I did give the author, title and a three word synopsis - but more would probably have helped. On the other hand, I didn't want to prejudice watchers too much by giving my own opinion up front.

Comment author: ciphergoth 16 February 2010 11:30:19PM 0 points [-]

I get that. Can we encourage a norm of writing FYI when we want to avoid the implication that it's a recommendation?

Comment author: gwern 18 February 2010 03:07:17AM 4 points [-]

Jaron Lanier is a fruitcake - but I figure most participants here already knew that.

They may not; it takes a while for one to figure out that he really is a fruitcake - individual columns or essays tend to sound like perfectly respectable contrarianism. I first began reading his articles in Discover and it wasn't until his 'Digital Maoism' essay that "he really is a nut!" occurred to me.