gwern comments on Akrasia Tactics Review - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 26 February 2010 03:04:18PM 0 points [-]

Great link Gwern. It has just about inspired me to dust off some of my stashes of 'racetams and CDP choline and play again.

Comment author: gwern 26 February 2010 04:18:00PM 1 point [-]

Glad you found it useful. I've followed up with some more stats about performance while being off/out of piracetam & choline.

Comment author: wedrifid 26 February 2010 04:34:21PM 0 points [-]

Now that is even more useful. I have heard plenty of subjective experience reports but none of the personal anecdotes have come with solid data. I would rather like to see similar reports from 100 other people!

Although come to think of it I would probably benefit even more from just having results for me, personally. I've actually downloaded the same piece of software myself today and started practicing. I'll give myself time for the learning curve to slow down then see how it changes when I start gulping piracetam, aniracitam and CDP-choline in my typical dose.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 26 February 2010 08:45:09PM *  4 points [-]

Having a site like PatientsLikeMe for anti-akrasia techniques would be awesome. Or productivity techniques in general.

If somebody made an open-source, easily modifiable and pluginnable platform for a general "report your experiences with thing X" site that could be customized into reporting about anything, be it akrasia techniques or medical treatments or something else... they'd probably contribute more utilons to the world with that action than most people ever will.

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 27 February 2010 11:04:02PM 3 points [-]

You should check out the Quantified Self, both for finding existing tools and for finding people to use future tools.

Comment author: wedrifid 28 February 2010 12:20:12AM 0 points [-]

Thankyou! I'll make use of that.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 27 February 2010 07:32:29AM 3 points [-]

I've done a certain amount of thinking on this particular topic, so if anyone is really genuinely truly going to do a startup around it, please call me first.

Comment author: wedrifid 27 February 2010 07:20:33AM 1 point [-]

I actually started creating such a site a while back (because I wanted one for personal use and generalised from there). It got put on the back burner in preference for money earning. That more utilons to the world than most people ever will sounds tempting. :)

Comment author: gwern 26 February 2010 08:39:24PM 2 points [-]

FWIW, DNB does have a learning curve of a few levels. I wouldn't really trust any stats until D3B.

Comment author: wedrifid 27 February 2010 07:23:22AM 1 point [-]

I get consistent 100% scores on D2B so I think I'll use D3B as a 'learning' level. I'm still trying to figure out the right 'thinking' strategy to use for D3+B. With D2B I just empty my mind, look at the cross and 'just press the right answer'. But that doesn't work reliably for me on D3B. I seem to go better actively rehearsing the sequences in my mind and explicitly forming a picture of what historical item fits 'next'. My performance is wildly variable (30% to 80%) and depends massively on whether my brain gets in the right zone.

I'm already noticing my brain modifying itself in response to the training. My competitive instincts take control and whenever they spot any unhelpful thinking they throw it out. Distractions, anxieties, frustration at making mistakes, none of these help it win and the brain can identify that right there in the short term. So all the habits of mental hygiene that I have worked to develop for myself get magnified.

Comment author: Kevin 27 February 2010 07:31:04AM 2 points [-]

One thing I've tried sometimes is to only remember half the sequence. Like I try to remember the audio sequence explicitly, and "just press the right answer" for the visual stimulus.