Sniffnoy comments on Woo! - Less Wrong

7 Post author: BenAlbahari 21 February 2010 08:19AM

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Comment author: loqi 22 February 2010 01:29:35AM 5 points [-]

There seems to be an emphasis here on "bad" (logically invalid/irrelevant) forms of persuasion, but it might be also be nice to have "good" woos that should lend credence to an argument. This would also reduce the number of apparent epistemological assumptions made by the site (e.g., "relies on infinite set theory" may be more of a problem for some than others).

A few off the top of my head:

  • Disjunctive: Argument draws support from multiple independent sources.
  • Fragile: Argument makes very specific claims and/or is very vulnerable to new evidence.
  • Uncritical Consensus: Argument claims that no reasonable effort has been made to refute its core claims (e.g., citing ciphergoth's recent cryonics survey).

FYI, I also think that "woo" isn't a great word, and much prefer "trope" or even "pattern". Maybe "pitch"?

Comment author: Sniffnoy 22 February 2010 03:25:10AM 1 point [-]

Seconding pitch, if you actually want to use a new word rather than an existing one.

Comment author: BenAlbahari 22 February 2010 04:52:11AM 2 points [-]

"pitch"... I like it. Anyone else? If there's a consensus here, I'll change it.

Comment author: CronoDAS 22 February 2010 06:29:10AM 1 point [-]

"Pitch" is much better. I had no idea what the "woo" link meant when I first saw it.

Comment author: zero_call 22 February 2010 07:53:06AM *  0 points [-]

I think you should be less interested in the positive consensus on "pitch" and more interested in the negative consensus on "woo". I suspect you're going to have to make many more decisions like this in the future.

Comment author: komponisto 22 February 2010 06:37:18AM 0 points [-]

To me, "pitch" immediately suggests music/acoustics.

(Though, if you know the meaning of my pseudonym, you won't find that surprising.)

Comment author: RobinZ 22 February 2010 03:13:53PM 0 points [-]

*search engines*

Esperanto?

Comment author: komponisto 22 February 2010 05:04:15PM 0 points [-]

Yes, although any German speaker will also recognize the meaning.