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Comment author: V_V 22 October 2012 08:03:11PM *  1 point [-]

But you have to know that the person who uses the nickname 'alicorn' has posted something about her gender.

The word 'alicorn' itself doesn't seem associated with anything femmine, other than the 'unicorns are girly' stereotype which is itself far from obvious.

Comment author: DaFranker 22 October 2012 08:19:16PM 1 point [-]

(...) other than the 'unicorns are girly' stereotype which is itself far from obvious.

You mean the monstrous, superpowered godlike entity of human-level intelligence that purely selfishly rewards with mystical life-enhancing divine gifts those that save it, and those who would threaten it find themselves and all their relatives and descendents forever cursed, including any innocent offspring five generations removed from a single unicorn-threatening ancestor?

The first time I knew I'd probably encounter a unicorn in a game of D&D, I started rolling my next character.

All in all, I think the "unicorns are girly" stereotype isn't all that widespread outside of certain typical US populations. For most populations, I'd figure the question of unicorn genderness never even occurs in the first place - unicorns are just one of those many "mythical creature" thinghies. Then again, I'm from a rather young generation and I have an extended family that is rather high standards in terms of gender cultural programming and social expectations (or prevention thereof).

Comment author: wedrifid 22 October 2012 10:14:40PM *  2 points [-]

All in all, I think the "unicorns are girly" stereotype isn't all that widespread outside of certain typical US populations. For most populations, I'd figure the question of unicorn genderness never even occurs in the first place - unicorns are just one of those many "mythical creature" thinghies.

In whatever population I am part of (not a US one), it isn't the beast itself that is considered female, but rather that females are more likely to be associated with it. Probably a selection effect because they are slightly less likely to be impaled on sight.

Perhaps the unicorn suffers from a similar problem as the angel. When I hear the word "Angel" I think "Enormously powerful, ruthless, highly masculine yet somewhat pretty enforcer that is quite likely to slaughter you on sight". I don't think "scantily clad girl with harp". Unicorns are somewhat analogous albeit being territorial beasts rather than henchman.

Comment author: Bugmaster 22 October 2012 10:38:52PM -1 points [-]

I associate the word "Angel" with an eldritch inhuman monstrosity, the very sight of which will drive you mad, if you're lucky. It is a messenger of an inscrutable divine omni-power, and it only ever carries one message: annihilation.

Comment author: wedrifid 23 October 2012 01:58:37AM *  3 points [-]

It is a messenger of an inscrutable divine omni-power, and it only ever carries one message: annihilation.

Angels carry at least two types of message: Annihilation and threats of annihilation if compliance with arbitrary demands is not immediate! Sometimes they are also scouts come to investigate whether said annihilation is necessary. Tip: if large flawlessly beautiful men walk up to your city don't try to gang rape them. Offering your daughters up to the would-be rapists as a compromise is frowned upon but not penalized.

Comment author: fezziwig 23 October 2012 09:33:34PM 3 points [-]

In one case, the message was "You're pregnant". Then, later, a whole chorus of angels gave a concert in celebration of that child's birth.

Which is not to detract from your point! The very first thing those angels said, to Mary and the shepherds both, was "Fear not!"

Comment author: Raemon 23 October 2012 09:52:43PM 0 points [-]

This set of posts made my day.

Comment author: MixedNuts 23 October 2012 10:02:01PM -1 points [-]

It seems to be encouraged, not frowned upon. And offering your daughter and the wife of the intended (non-angelic) victim is super-righteous.

Comment author: MugaSofer 26 October 2012 09:36:03AM 1 point [-]

it only ever carries one message: annihilation.

Um, no.

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Comment author: [deleted] 23 October 2012 02:49:02PM -1 points [-]

Perhaps the unicorn suffers from a similar problem as the angel.

“The sex of angels” is an Italian idiom for an irrelevant question, much like “how many angels can dance on the head of a pin” is in English.

Comment author: thomblake 22 October 2012 08:34:57PM 2 points [-]

the "unicorns are girly" stereotype

One of my most salient associations with unicorns is dangerous men. One of my friends was a social worker, and he found that nearly every time he saw the lodgings of a male serial rapist or other such severely disturbed male, they were decorated with unicorn posters.

Comment author: fezziwig 22 October 2012 09:10:06PM 3 points [-]

...huh.

Be right back. If anybody needs me, I'll be reevaluating everything I thought I knew about My Little Pony.

Comment author: DaFranker 22 October 2012 08:45:26PM *  1 point [-]

Hah, yeah, that's exactly the kind of usage I would come up with if I had to pick something unicorns would be a symbol for.

My image of unicorns as incredibly monstrous, scary supernatural creatures first came from the question: "Okay, it's a white horse with a long, pointy, sometimes serrated or with screw-like sharp spiral edges, horn, but... what the hell do they use that horn for?"

Comment author: MugaSofer 26 October 2012 09:32:49AM 0 points [-]

what the hell do they use that horn for?

Stabbing lions. And ill-informed hunters.