MrHen comments on Open Thread: March 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: MrHen 01 March 2010 11:19:57PM *  4 points [-]

I was tempted to add this comment:

Vote this comment up if you have no idea what Alicorn's metaphor of luminosity means.

But figured it wouldn't be nice to screw with your poll. :)

The point, though, is that I really don't understand the luminosity metaphor based on how you have currently described it. I would guess the following:

A luminous mental state is a mental state such that the mind in that state is fully aware of being in that state.

Am I close?

Edit: Terminology

Comment author: Alicorn 01 March 2010 11:20:30PM *  4 points [-]

The adjective is "luminous", not "luminescent", but yes! Thanks - it's good to get feedback on when I'm not clear. However, the word "luminosity" itself is only sort of metaphorical - it's a technical term I stole and repurposed from a philosophy article. The question is how far I can go with doing things like calling a post "You Are Likely To Be Eaten By A Grue" when decrying the hazards of poor luminosity.

Comment author: wedrifid 02 March 2010 01:42:42AM 1 point [-]

The question is how far I can go with doing things like calling a post "You Are Likely To Be Eaten By A Grue" when decrying the hazards of poor luminosity.

Ok, you just won my vote! ;)

Comment author: CronoDAS 02 March 2010 02:44:30AM *  1 point [-]

Me too; I'm always fond of references like that one. ;)

Comment author: Peter_de_Blanc 02 March 2010 02:08:40AM 0 points [-]

My interpretation of your description had been that luminosity is like the bandwidth parameter in kernel density estimation.

Comment author: RobinZ 02 March 2010 03:08:52AM 1 point [-]

Can you elaborate on this? I suspect it's not what Alicorn was describing, but it may be interesting in its own right.

(For what it's worth, I understood the math in the Wikipedia article.)

Comment author: Peter_de_Blanc 02 March 2010 08:34:30PM 3 points [-]

One way to guess what might happen in a given situation is to compare it to similar situations in the past. Assume we already have some way of measuring similarity. Some past situations will be extremely similar to the current situation, and some will be less similar but still pretty close. How much weight should we attach to each?

If your data set is very small, then it is usually better for the weight to drop off slowly, while the opposite is true if your data set is large. Perhaps different individuals use different curves, and so some people will have an advantage at reasoning with scanty data, while others will have an advantage at reasoning with mountains of data. I thought that Alicorn was suggesting "luminosity" as a name for this personality trait. It looks like I was way off, though :-)

Comment author: Alicorn 02 March 2010 02:21:45AM 1 point [-]

Fortunately, my first post in the sequence will be devoted to explaining what luminosity is in meticulous detail. Spoiler: it's not like anything that is described in a Wikipedia article that makes my head swim that badly.

Comment author: MrHen 01 March 2010 11:23:54PM *  0 points [-]

Hm. Interesting, I don't think I ever realized those two words had slightly different meanings.

*Files information under vocab quirks.*