thomblake comments on Signaling Strategies and Morality - Less Wrong

17 Post author: MichaelVassar 05 March 2010 09:09PM

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Comment author: Clippy 05 March 2010 09:35:39PM 15 points [-]

I am slightly more committed to this group’s welfare, particularly to that of its weakest members , than most of its members are. If you suffer a serious loss of status/well-being I will still help you in order to display affiliation to this group even though you will no longer be in a position to help me. I am substantially more kind and helpful to the people I like and substantially more vindictive and aggressive towards those I dislike. I am generally stable in who I like. I am much more capable and popular than most members of this group, demand appropriate consideration, and grant appropriate consideration to those more capable than myself. I adhere to simple taboos so that my reputation and health are secure and so that I am unlikely to contaminate the reputations or health of my friends. I currently like you and dislike your enemies but I am somewhat inclined towards ambivalence on regarding whether I like you right now so the pay-off would be very great for you if you were to expend resources pleasing me and get me into the stable 'liking you' region of my possible attitudinal space. Once there, I am likely to make a strong commitment to a friendly attitude towards you rather than wasting cognitive resources checking a predictable parameter among my set of derivative preferences.

Comment author: thomblake 05 March 2010 09:47:51PM 1 point [-]

Hey, I was about to make some paperclips. Did you need any?

Comment author: JGWeissman 05 March 2010 09:57:22PM 6 points [-]

I was under the impression that Clippy doesn't actually use paperclips, but rather, wants them to exist.

Comment author: gwern 06 March 2010 05:22:48PM 7 points [-]

But if Clippy has them, he can protect them more effectively than if they were in the custody of notoriously paperclip-immoral humans, who will callously sacrifice paperclips just to hold together some papers or shoot rubberbands with!

(If the latter 2 scenarios seem impossibly foul to you, I assure you that I have seen humans do such things with my own eyes, and lightly damn themselves out of their own mouths.)

Comment author: thomblake 08 March 2010 01:29:18PM 1 point [-]

That's why I mentioned I was making paperclips, not just buying them.

Comment author: JGWeissman 08 March 2010 05:51:24PM 0 points [-]

I was actually responding to "Did you need any?", the point being that it did not really matter once you made them whether you gave them to Clippy or not.

The distinction between making and buying them is not so important. When you demonstrate you are willing to buy something at a price someone else is willing to sell it for, you essentially cause more of that thing to be produced.