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Comment author: woozle 17 March 2010 11:24:47PM -1 points [-]

Thanks for bringing up Haidt; I've taken a close look at some of this writing (e.g. this) and concluded that he is full of it... or at least not being rational.

The Five Pillars of Morality theory in particular falls apart if you scratch the surface too hard.

I'm not sure what you mean by "terminal values", however.

Comment author: mattnewport 17 March 2010 11:28:50PM 2 points [-]

You apparently haven't kept up with developments of the theory. You say:

Liberals are generally far more concerned about purity of environmental conditions than are conservatives. Food is a good example: filtered water, organic foods, avoidance of over-processing, and avoidance of synthetic ingredients in food are all very much liberal causes, ignored or even disparaged by conservatives.

Which Haidt has recently addressed specifically in a blog post entitled "In Search of Liberal Purity".

Comment author: woozle 18 March 2010 12:59:57AM *  0 points [-]

You're right, I hadn't encountered any new items from Haidt since the "why do people vote Republican" piece in edge.

(Lest there be any misunderstanding: the number of follow-ups I would like to investigate seems to grow exponentially with each bit of investigating I actually do. Time is obviously not available to keep up with more than a tiny percentage of what I would like to keep up with.)

I'm glad to see he is at least acknowledging the existence of "liberal purity" -- and even seems to realize that it exposes a weakness in his "Five Pillars" argument -- but, as far as I can tell, he does absolutely nothing to address that weakness.