Psychohistorian comments on Undiscriminating Skepticism - Less Wrong

97 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 14 March 2010 11:23PM

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Comment author: aausch 15 March 2010 09:24:44PM 1 point [-]

I wonder what you mean by "hardcore atheists"?

I'm guessing you don't mean hardcore as in "signaling group membership loudly", and Eliezer already argued the point that atheism is no longer a valid synonym for reliable, rational thought.

Comment author: Psychohistorian 15 March 2010 10:16:29PM *  1 point [-]

I think "hardcore atheist" generally means, "atheist who actively and loudly antagonizes religion." That is not consistent with the poster's usage, but I don't think any adjective would be - the point is that people who are not atheists may be worth listening to, not that some "not-hardcore" atheists are also worth listening to in addition to the hardcore atheists.

Comment author: aausch 16 March 2010 02:15:26PM 0 points [-]

I assume we agree that atheism is not a signal for rational thought anymore - if that's true, are you getting any additional useful information by looking at how loudly someone antagonizes religion?

Comment author: Psychohistorian 16 March 2010 05:59:36PM *  2 points [-]

I would think that higher levels of overt religious antagonism indicate low agreeableness. It may be an indicator not so much of irrationality as of a sort of intellectual laziness or poor judgement, as it's an unconstructive behaviour that generates a great deal of self-satisfaction for not doing anything particularly difficult.

That said, I was rather closer to that kind of atheism when I was younger, so I'm decidedly biased.

Comment author: aausch 16 March 2010 08:03:14PM 0 points [-]

I think I have a similar point of view to yours, on this.