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Comment author: wedrifid 04 December 2011 10:15:00PM 1 point [-]

I don't think everyone is born with what we consider proficient rationality. Perhaps a majority could be taught to be rational, I am not denying this possibility, but I do not think that it is economically feasible.

I'd doubt the feasibility without brain modification tech.

Comment author: timtyler 14 December 2011 06:29:52PM 1 point [-]

Perhaps a majority could be taught to be rational, I am not denying this possibility, but I do not think that it is economically feasible.

I'd doubt the feasibility without brain modification tech.

Surely education is "brain modification tech". You can upgrade your own software.

Comment author: wedrifid 14 December 2011 07:00:50PM -1 points [-]

Surely education is "brain modification tech".

No.

Comment author: timtyler 14 December 2011 07:41:04PM 1 point [-]

A lot of educational tools are technology - I would personally say that all educational systems are forms of technology.

...and they definitely modify your brain. Not counting them? Consider reconsidering.

Comment author: wedrifid 14 December 2011 08:14:16PM *  2 points [-]

The link provided in the grandparent is important:

And DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED on people who think Wikipedia is an "Artificial Intelligence", the invention of LSD was a "Singularity" or that corporations are "superintelligent"!

"Education" is "brain modification technology" in about the same way the invention of LSD was a singularity.

It was a long time ago so my memory is hazy... was that post actually written as a direct response to you back in the day or was the "corporations are super-intelligent" guy someone else?

Comment author: timtyler 14 December 2011 10:16:03PM *  0 points [-]

was that post actually written as a direct response to you back in the day or was the "corporations are super-intelligent" guy someone else?

I don't think I would ever have said "corporations are super-intelligent". "Agents with super-human powers" would be more my line.

"Superintelligent" means something fairly specific - something which corporations are not yet - and I have been aware of that for quite a long time.

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