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Comment author: taw 16 April 2012 06:06:44PM -2 points [-]

Killing another living thing doesn't qualify as "euthanasia" if you do it for your benefit, not that being's.

By infant abandonment by giving it to an orphanage (it's not legal everywhere, but in a lot of countries it's perfectly legal and acceptable) you lose both your responsibility and your control over the baby, so you no longer have any right to do so.

And speaking of euthanasia, we really should seriously reban it. We pretty much know how to deal with even the most severe pain - very large doses of opiates to get rid of it, and large doses of stimulants like amphetamines to counter the side effects. War on Drugs is the reason why we don't routinely do this to people in severe pain.

We don't have a magical cure for depression, but if someone is depressed, they cannot make rational decisions for themselves anyway, so they cannot decide to kill themselves legitimately.

Once you cover these casese, there are zero legitimate arguments left for euthanasia.

Comment author: [deleted] 16 April 2012 07:38:00PM 1 point [-]

We pretty much know how to deal with even the most severe pain - very large doses of opiates to get rid of it, and large doses of stimulants like amphetamines to counter the side effects.

I'd be incredibly surprised if this actually worked clinically.

Comment author: taw 16 April 2012 11:11:33PM 0 points [-]

Start here, and follow the links.

Comment author: [deleted] 16 April 2012 11:49:07PM *  3 points [-]

That doesn't answer my question. I'm not interested in the ethical, legal, and societal barriers to adequate pain management, which is what your link covers as far as I can tell.

I want to know how one intends to circumvent opiate tolerance, and whether or not large doses of stimulants really do counteract the side effects of large doses of opiates in a large enough class of people to be effective, without the side effects of these stimulants becoming undesirable.

Comment author: Strange7 14 December 2013 05:14:50AM 0 points [-]

Assembling a drug cocktail in order to achieve some central result while minimizing side effects, with ongoing adjustment as the severity of the underlying condition and the patient's sensitivity to the drugs in question both change, is one of those complicated problems which modern medicine is nonetheless capable of solving, given adequate resources.