PhilGoetz comments on Human values differ as much as values can differ - Less Wrong

13 Post author: PhilGoetz 03 May 2010 07:35PM

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 04 May 2010 01:01:09PM 5 points [-]

One corollary of this is that for existing high status people, CEV would be a terrible thing.

(As compared to what?) Only assuming that the benefits of living in a post-Singularity world are less valuable than making other people miserable, which strikes me as implausible. A middle-class person today likely has way better life than a king of 4000BC.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 04 May 2010 02:57:15PM 0 points [-]

You're saying that you don't believe there are people for whom status is a value.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 04 May 2010 03:30:15PM 0 points [-]

You're saying that you don't believe there are people for whom status is a value.

Not at all. I'm merely saying that status is not in total dominance of what people prefer.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 04 May 2010 03:41:44PM 0 points [-]

Okay. You're saying that you don't believe there are people for whom status is a dominant value.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 04 May 2010 03:47:41PM *  1 point [-]

You're saying that you don't believe there are people for whom status is a dominant value.

Yes. This would fall into the category of "people" who don't share a human universal balance of basic aspects of value, "people" who are magical mutants with complex motivations shaped primarily by something other than evolution (which won't allow large complex differences from the rest of the population). (See also this comment.)