Blueberry comments on Human values differ as much as values can differ - Less Wrong

13 Post author: PhilGoetz 03 May 2010 07:35PM

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Comment author: Blueberry 04 May 2010 10:21:31PM 3 points [-]

I'm not sure that's totally fair. Sonnet 130, for instance, essentially makes fun of romantic poetry by subverting it: instead of waxing eloquently about his love's beauty, Shakespeare makes fun of over-the-top descriptions.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 05 May 2010 04:14:00AM 0 points [-]

Yes, but there's no doubt that he's making fun of it. Romeo and Juliet is tragic; it's pretty clear we're supposed to feel sorry for R&J, not slyly laugh at them.

Authors are probably less fond of subtlety in times and places where being misinterpreted can get you executed. (Except, of course, when being correctly interpreted would get them executed.)

Comment author: fontgoddess 07 May 2010 07:00:27PM 1 point [-]

Romeo & Juliet is a tragedy, not a comedy. They are children in love with the idea of love rather than mystical soul-mates. The tragedy is that they are killed by various circumstances, not that they lost some amazing, transcendent love.

While Romeo's wholehearted dedication to the idea of love (starting with Rosaline and then fixing on Juliet) is somewhat humorous and possibly satirical, but the bulk of the play is tragedy, not satire or romance.

Honestly, I find those who think Romeo & Juliet is a romance rather stupid and somewhat disturbing. If Romeo & Juliet is the apex of romance, I'd like something else, please.