JustinShovelain comments on Think Before You Speak (And Signal It) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JustinShovelain 19 March 2010 11:39:58PM *  6 points [-]

Interesting idea.

I agree that trusting newly formed ideas is risky, but there are several reasons to convey them anyway (non-comprehensive listing):

  • To recruit assistance in developing and verifying them

  • To convey an idea that is obvious in retrospect, an idea you can be confident in immediately

  • To signal cleverness and ability to think on one's feet

  • To socially play with the ideas

What we are really after though is to asses how much weight to assign to an idea off the bat so we can calculate the opportunity costs of thinking about the idea in greater detail and asking for the idea to be fleshed out and conveyed fully. This overlaps somewhat with the confidence (context sensitive rules in determining) with which the speaker is conveying the idea. Also, how do you gauge how old an idea really is? Especially if it condenses gradually or is a simple combination out of very old parts? Still... some metric is better than no metric.

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Comment author: Erik 20 March 2010 10:58:59AM 2 points [-]

To convey an idea that is obvious in retrospect, an idea you can be confident in immediately

Solutions to hard puzzles are good examples of these. NP-problems, where finding a solution is (believed to be) exponentially harder than checking the correctness of it, is the extreme case.

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Comment author: AdeleneDawner 20 March 2010 04:18:04AM 2 points [-]

To convey an idea that is obvious in retrospect, an idea you can be confident in immediately

Such ideas are prone to being flawed because they fail to take into account relevant information that has been temporarily forgotten.