pjeby comments on What would you do if blood glucose theory of willpower was true? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: pjeby 22 March 2010 11:12:26PM 4 points [-]

And the second issue - if this theory was true - and by manipulating blood glucose levels you could achieve far greater willpower whenever you wanted

Logical error: (diminished X correlated with diminished Y) does not imply (increased X causes increased Y).

Among other things, there could be some other variable Z that causes both X and Y to diminish.

There can also be more than one resource bottleneck in the process - if other resources normally take longer to exhaust than glucose, all this does is make you run into problems later.

There may also be non-resource bottlenecks, like how much "executive" wiring you have. See the meditation-grows-your-brain studies, that seem to indicate willpower is like a muscle in terms of being able to be grown and made more efficient. So, removing the glucose bottleneck without increasing executive control, could be like having a fed runner who hasn't run a marathon before. You can give them all the glucose you want, but that won't necessarily get them to the finish line.

Following the logic of constraints, one can generate an almost unlimited number of plausible scenarios under which glucose will not produce any substantial improvements, even if glucose were a bottleneck resource in akrasia most of the time.... which it probably isn't.

Comment author: taw 23 March 2010 01:03:45AM 4 points [-]

Logical error: ...

You seem to have not read the linked research - consumption of sugary drink restores willpower in laboratory setting, and not one word you said makes any sense in light of this.

Comment author: pjeby 23 March 2010 04:14:55PM *  5 points [-]

You seem to have not read the linked research

Actually, I was the first person to post the glucose-willpower hypothesis to lesswong, nine months ago.

consumption of sugary drink restores willpower in laboratory setting, and not one word you said makes any sense in light of this.

On the contrary - it does not in the slightest invalidate what I said. Glucose can be a bottleneck in some situations, and not in others. In those situations where it is, it will appear to be a magic bullet, and in all other cases it will fall flat.

That's not speculation, it's simple logic on the available evidence regarding the causal chain involved in willpower.

On the other hand, the reasoning you're using regarding glucose is plain old fashioned magical thinking.

Comment author: Kutta 23 March 2010 09:50:05AM *  2 points [-]

Consumption of amphetamines also restores willpower in laboratory settings. The main question is what strategy is sustainable for optimizing mental performance. A one-shot lab study will not give salient answers to that.

Comment author: taw 23 March 2010 10:31:42AM 2 points [-]

You're technically right - laboratory experiments probe proxy measures in unrealistic settings. And that's the only kind of evidence we can really expect from them.

That's why the main thing I was asking about in this post is not if this theory is true (random speculation here will not answer this), but what would be the best ways to exploit it assuming it was true.