PhilGoetz comments on An empirical test of anthropic principle / great filter reasoning - Less Wrong
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Katja wrote:
The coin example Katja does use this reasoning. The islands example doesn't have to.
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Islands that are easy to reach and are not prone to disaster.
Islands that are hard to reach and are not prone to disaster.
Islands that are easy to reach and are prone to disaster.
Islands that are hard to reach and are prone to disaster.
Assign prior odds of 1/3 to reaching each of the two "easy to reach" cases, and 1/6 to reaching the two "hard to reach" cases. Note I'm putting "reaching an island" in my priors, and observations about how many other people are on that island into my posteriors. You should get the same answer if you assign equal priors and mash everything into your posteriors.
Suppose "prone to disaster" means "probability 1/2 that there was a disaster on this island just before we arrived", and "not prone to disaster" means "there was never a disaster on this island".
Suppose "easy to reach" means "0 to 7 other tribes have reached this island, with each number having equal probability." Suppose "hard to reach" means "0 to 1 other tribes have reached this island, with each number having equal probability."
Assume only disasters eliminate tribes. Observation B is: No other tribes on island.
Let A denote one of the 4 possible islands. P(A|B) = P(A,B) / P(B) = P(B|A)P(A)/P(B)
We'll compute just P(B|A)P(A) for each A, as P(B) is the same for all of them.
P(1|B) ~ P(B|1)P(1) = 1/8 x 1/3 = 1/24
P(2|B) ~ P(B|2)P(2) = 1/2 x 1/6 = 1/12
P(3|B) ~ P(B|3)P(3) = [1/2 + 1/2 x 1/8] x 1/3 = 9/48 = 3/16
P(4|B) ~ P(B|4)P(4) = [1/2 x 1 + 1/2 x 1/2] x 1/6 = 3/4 x 1/6 = 1/8
This shows that island type 3 is the most likely; yet we never assumed that worlds with more people are more likely.