SilasBarta comments on An empirical test of anthropic principle / great filter reasoning - Less Wrong

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Comment author: SilasBarta 25 March 2010 04:51:50PM *  0 points [-]

"most attempts will fail, but if we are allowed 3^^^3 attempts at a significant technological gain, we will expect to advance." I think you need some sort of prior distribution for number of attempts to make it analogous to SIA doomsday.

And you need a similar prior distribution for Katja_Grace's SIA argument, which makes it underdetermined as well. (My "no anthropic reasoning" paradigm is really starting to pan out!)

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Comment author: khafra 25 March 2010 05:58:28PM 1 point [-]

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Thanks, that underscores my difficulty finding relevant details.

I think you're saying the relevant detail here is the applicability of anthropic reasoning to the universe we actually live in: Actually using the island argument doesn't help us learn about the real world as much as looking up historic data about islands, and the SIA doomsday argument fails similarly in the face of real-world astronomy. Is this correct?