Johnicholas comments on More thoughts on assertions - Less Wrong

22 Post author: Yvain 25 March 2010 01:39AM

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Comment author: Johnicholas 26 March 2010 07:02:31PM 1 point [-]

There's two different questions in your post: First, you ask what the covert message is. Second, you ask me to show has the post has a covert message. One's own writing always reads apparently clearly, but I thought I offered sufficient evidence that the original post has a covert message, even though I wasn't picking out any particular covert meaning.

I believe the covert message is "Intelligence is: real/important/relevant/effectively measured by IQ/a useful concept for theory-building/probably innate/probably stable/probably genetic. Race is: real/important/relevant/effectively measured by self-identification/strongly correlated to genetics. There is scientific evidence that the genetic component of race is a significant causative influence on intelligence."

Comment author: Morendil 26 March 2010 08:15:27PM 1 point [-]

So, you seem to be saying that Yvain is using Watson as an example, at least partly (and significantly so) in order to convince others of (not to put too fine a point on it) the racist IQ hypothesis.

I had a different reading of the post, which was that even for someone who disagreed with the racist IQ hypothesis, Watson's pronouncements should carry more weight than a random person's. I actually agree with Yvain - though I also note that looking into Watson's actual argument in even a little more detail was enough for me to dismiss it.