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Shabbos goy.
Awesome!
So it's less-offensive to use the term "Shabbos goy", which logically criticizes Judaism, than to use the term "Jew", which creates a negative association with Judaism.
If that's so, then if you tell people
what they hear are the associations
Jew is just a really loaded word because it is used by various sorts of supremacists. "Jewish person" can be substituted without any kind of negative connotation.
Got here late -- what was the original title?
"Kill the Jews".
I guess some people are just touchy.
Necessary Jews
When I first saw it under that title, before I read the article, I read it as contrasting with "Sufficient Jews" or possibly "Contingent Jews".
I'm still enjoying imagining what those could possibly mean.
Is the plural Shabbos goyim?
I'd assume so. I'm only half-Jewish on my dad's side, and he was brought up in a fairly liberal sect and ditched even that shortly after getting bar mitzvahed and didn't pass on a Jewish surname - I'm as non-Jewish as one can get while retaining any claim to it at all. So I'm not a proper authority on the subject.
I thought that you're considered Jewish if your mother was Jewish, and not Jewish if she wasn't.
That depends on the sect, apparently.
Exactly. Genetics, of course, don't give a damn whence the Jewishness, and it didn't inhibit my ability to pick up secondhand culture either except inasmuch as that set of grandparents died when I was a kid, but my point was that it being on my dad's side makes me "less Jewish" by a relevant metric.