Raw_Power comments on Tell Your Rationalist Origin Story - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Raw_Power 13 December 2010 08:56:02PM 1 point [-]

But... didn't you say your alternate medicine and stuff actually worked? You don't need to throw the baby with the hot water (or whatever): techniques that work but have bogus explanations that still help in their practice (and I see that a lot in martial arts) simply need better, leaner explanations, but ignoring an empirical phenomenon entirely on the ground that its explanation sucks is not a very good idea. A few days ago I had my first Zen session. The sensation was unique, the results immediate, the explanation (harmony with the universe) bullshit/useless for deriving consequences, but useful for getting the position right. There's obviously more to it that "sitting before a wall in a contrived position", but what exactly?

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 13 December 2010 09:24:42PM *  1 point [-]

But... didn't you say your alternate medicine and stuff actually worked?

I said that I knew that it worked, not that it worked. I'm not moved by your argument that aimed to exploit that particular hypothetical point of confusion.