ArisKatsaris comments on Tell Your Rationalist Origin Story - Less Wrong

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Comment author: PhilosophyTutor 31 December 2011 06:03:36AM 0 points [-]

What would you accept as evidence? Seriously.

Documentary evidence that dates from the time of Jesus' supposed life and death, which describes a religious leader called Jesus who started a splinter sect of Judaism would do it.

I wouldn't be in any way upset if such evidence emerged tomorrow, but I think it's very unlikely. Pious researchers have been looking very hard for a very long time for even a shred of contemporary evidence for a historical Jesus that isn't forged, and they've come up with nothing so far. When people have looked long and hard for evidence and found none the probability that there is no evidence to find gets very high.

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 31 December 2011 12:55:05PM 1 point [-]

Documentary evidence that dates from the time of Jesus' supposed life and death, which describes a religious leader called Jesus who started a splinter sect of Judaism would do it.

What documentary evidence for any other religious leaders that started other splinter sects of Judaism at the time do you have?

If you don't have any direct evidence for any specific one of those leaders, does that mean there didn't exist any such splinter sects at the time?

Comment author: FeatherlessBiped 31 December 2011 08:24:01PM 1 point [-]

Thank you. This is a concise representation of the general objection I was going to make. Finding evidence of ANYTHING in that era that meets modern standards is often very difficult, if not impossible. Nearly all history from that era can be, and is, challenged.

I have yet to see a statement from PhilosophyTutor justifying his choice for a standard of evidence on this question.