Kawoomba comments on Tell Your Rationalist Origin Story - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Kawoomba 28 May 2014 04:17:28PM 0 points [-]

My perceived utility function often goes negative. When that happens, I would be extremely tempted to kill my meat body if there were a guarantee it would extinguish my perceived consciousness permanently. That would be a huge reward to me in that frame of mind, not a loss. This may be why I don't see these questions the way most people here do.

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If (all that | most of what)'s keeping you from "killing your meat body" is that being no guarantee of permanent death, stay away from this community (because we'd probably convince you such perma-death would be the highly probable outcome) and seek professional help! Instead of puzzling over the karma system.

(Just to lay that question to rest, this is a diverse community and the downvote button means many things to many people. However, in general it's less of "this is not my opinion, so I have to downvote this because this is not my opinion" than e.g. Reddit, and more of "this argument is flawed / this comment adds too much noise to the discussion". You can assume that most people have a good reason to downvote, but that reason can stem from various considerations.)

Comment author: more_wrong 30 May 2014 12:06:11AM -1 points [-]

stay away from this community I responded to this suggestion but deleted the response as unsuitable because it might embarass you. I would be happy to email my reply if you are interested.

we'd probably convince you such perma-death would be the highly probable outcome

Try reading what I said in more detail in both the post I made that you quoted and my explanation of how there might be a set of worlds of very small measure. Then go read Eliezer Yudkowsky's posts on Many Worlds (or crack a book by Deutsch or someone, or check Wikipedia.) Then reread the clause you published here which I just quoted above, and see if you still stand by it, or if you can see just how very silly it is. I don't want to bother to try to explain things again that have already been very well explained on this site.

I am trying to communicate using local community standards of courtesy, it is difficult. I am used to a very different tone of discourse.