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Comment author: CannibalSmith 31 March 2010 01:33:00PM *  0 points [-]

What, really? Wait, what!? Uh.

  1. Could you please answer my question directly in the form of "yes/no, because"?
  2. Do you mean by subjective probability the fact(?) that probability is about the map and not the territory?
  3. If yes, what does it have to do with anthropics?
  4. If yes, what! Contrary?? I learned about it here!
  5. If no, I'm completely confused.

Also, dear reader, vote parent up or down to tell me whether he's correct about you.

Comment author: wedrifid 31 March 2010 02:21:15PM 2 points [-]

Can we dismiss all anthropic reasoning by saying that probability is meaningless for singular events?

No, because it isn't isn't meaningless.

That is, the only way to obtain probability is from statistics

No, you can get it from mathematics. Even basic arithmetic. Infinite series of events, on the other hand, those are hard to come by.

, and I cannot run repeated experiments of when, where, and as what I exist.

I dismiss many examples of (bad) anthropic reasoning because they assume that that the probability of their subjective experience is what you get if you draw a random head out of a jar of all things that meet some criteria of self awareness.

Do you mean by subjective probability the fact(?) that probability is about the map and not the territory?

Kind of. Read Probability is subjectively objective

If yes, what! Contrary?? I learned about it here!

The frequentist dogma was the 'contrary' part, not the 'maps/territory' stuff. Probability doesn't come from statistics and definitely applies to single events.

Comment author: wnoise 31 March 2010 03:30:49PM 0 points [-]

Statistics is, of course, one source of knowledge we can usefully apply in calculating probabilities.

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