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Comment author: Mitchell_Porter 29 March 2010 06:51:00AM *  2 points [-]

I believe in continuity of substance, not similarity of pattern, as the basis of identity. If you are the original, that is what you are for all time. You cannot wake up as the copy. At best, a new mind can be created with false beliefs (such as false memories, of experiences which did not happen to it). Do I still face a problem of "subjective anticipation"?

ETA: Eliezer said of the original problem, "If you can't do the merge without killing people, then the trilemma is dissolved." Under a criterion of physical continuity, you cannot go from two objects to one object without at least one of them ceasing to be. So the original problem also appears to be a non-problem for me.

Comment author: wnoise 29 March 2010 04:44:11PM *  2 points [-]

I believe in continuity of substance, not similarity of pattern

Are there any actual predictions that would be different with "continuity of substance" as the standard for identity rather than "similarity of composition"?

What does continuity of substance even mean with respect to Fock spaces or the path-integral formulation? All electrons (or protons, etc) are literally descended from all possible others.

Comment author: Mitchell_Porter 01 April 2010 02:24:21AM 1 point [-]

Are there any actual predictions that would be different

These "subjective anticipations" are different, because I don't try to think of my copies as me.

What does continuity of substance even mean

Discussed here.