Vladimir_Nesov comments on Open Thread: April 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 02 April 2010 09:50:32AM *  3 points [-]

David Chalmers has written up a paper based on the talk he gave at 2009 Singularity Summit:

From the blog post where he announced the paper:

The main focus is the intelligence explosion that some think will happen when machines become more intelligent than humans. First, I try to clarify and analyze the argument for an intelligence explosion. Second, I discuss strategies for negotiating the singularity to maximize the chances of a good outcome. Third, I discuss issues regarding uploading human minds into computers, focusing on issues about consciousness and personal identity.

Comment author: timtyler 02 April 2010 12:18:08PM *  1 point [-]

Rather sad to see Chalmers embracing the dopey "singularity" terminology.

He seems to have toned down his ideas about development under conditions of isolation:

"Confining a superintelligence to a virtual world is almost certainly impossible: if it wants to escape, it almost certainly will."

Still, the ideas he expresses here are not very realistic, IMO. People want machine intelligence to help them to attain their goals. Machines can't do that if they are isolated off in virtual worlds. Sure there will be test harnesses - but of course we won't keep these things permanently restrained on grounds of sheer paranoia - that would stop us from using them.

53 pages with only 2 mentions of zombies - yay.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 02 April 2010 02:19:00PM *  0 points [-]

Sure there will be test harnesses

We can't test for values -- we don't know what they are. A negative test might be possible ("this thing surely has wrong values"), as a precaution, but not a positive test.

Comment author: timtyler 02 April 2010 02:29:40PM *  3 points [-]

Testing often doesn't identify all possible classes of flaw - e.g. see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_testing#Unit_testing_limitations

It is still very useful, nonetheless.