Jack comments on The Cameron Todd Willingham test - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Jack 05 May 2010 02:35:40AM 1 point [-]

What does an idealized form of Bayesian Justice look like?

To begin with "beyond reasonable doubt" needs to be replaced with "beyond X% certainty" where 100-X is whatever percent of innocent convictions we're comfortable with.

Comment author: ata 05 May 2010 10:17:08AM 2 points [-]

I think the certainty required should probably vary based on the length of the sentence (or the value of the penalty in civil cases, etc.).

Comment author: jimmy 05 May 2010 07:08:05PM -1 points [-]

"whatever percent of innocent convictions we're comfortable with." Isn't the right way to do it. You need to weigh the expected utilities and go with that.

For example, say we have someone suspected of murder, and you think its only 20% sure that he did it, but executing him given that he's the guilty saves an expected 10 lives, then you do it. If there was a second suspect (same p(guilt)) and you know only one of them is guilty, then you'd execute them both.

There are all sorts of disclaimers that could be added, but the point is that the threshold isn't arbitrary, and intuitions don't get close to the right answer.

Comment author: Jack 05 May 2010 08:16:36PM *  1 point [-]

What I said to Phil:

You are conflating Bayesian justice with utilitarian justice.