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Comment author: knb 20 April 2010 11:37:25PM 0 points [-]

The Red/Black=evil thing is true. Could it just be the influence of Nazis on the popular imagination? I'm trying to think of red/black combos from before WW2.

Comment author: Jack 20 April 2010 11:48:53PM *  1 point [-]

Germany's flag in WWI was black, red and white. I kind of doubt they saw themselves as evil.

One think I hated about V for Vendetta was how obvious the fascism looked. If you want to oppress a country changing the flag so it consists of alien and sinister red on black is, like, a dead giveaway.

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Comment author: knb 21 April 2010 01:30:52AM 0 points [-]

Well, nobody sees themselves as evil. I'm suggesting that the red/black combo might be associated with evil after WW2 because the Nazis were so evil.

The Norsefire flag in V for Vendetta is pretty obviously a Nazi'd up version of the St. George Cross.

Comment author: Jack 21 April 2010 01:43:06AM *  0 points [-]

I wasn't disagreeing with you, just preempting any suggestion that the Red/black= evil phenomena was especially universal or ancient. I think the Nazi explanation is a good one.

That said, red and black do seem to be the color most associated with hell and the underworld.

The Norsefire flag in V for Vendetta is pretty obviously a Nazi'd up version of the St. George Cross.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." -Sinclair Lewis

Comment author: Aurini 21 April 2010 01:24:46AM 0 points [-]

The only example from antiquity that I can think of is Heironymous Bosch's Garden of Earthly Delights: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/GardenED.jpg

The colour is faded, but hell is definitely red/black.

Incidentally, red/black/gold not only looks evil, it looks rich and evil.

Comment author: Jack 21 April 2010 01:55:10AM 1 point [-]

Well red and black are pretty much the colors you would expect to see in an underground pit full of fire.

Comment author: Alicorn 21 April 2010 02:59:40AM 0 points [-]

I would expect brown and orange and yellow too. Maybe blue, depending on what was on fire.