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32 Post author: PhilGoetz 26 April 2010 06:57PM

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Comment author: Tyrrell_McAllister 26 April 2010 10:53:10PM 2 points [-]

Speculation about possible futures is something that generally characterizes a radical (with obvious exceptions, especially around these parts).

Okay, then radical anti-tech utopian fiction should be well-represented, shouldn't it?

Comment author: Jack 26 April 2010 11:04:10PM 1 point [-]

Heh. That makes us both look pretty silly.

Comment author: Tyrrell_McAllister 26 April 2010 11:10:24PM *  2 points [-]

:) Fair point — the title of that anthology is "Future Primitive: The New Ecotopias".

I haven't read that book, but, if the reviews are any indication, I think that it is evidence for my point.

From the Amazon.com review:

These are stories of a future where "wet" technology has replaced "hard": silicon chips have given way to DNA strands, and the industrial high tech has been subsumed by environmental high tech. While all of these fine stories have been printed elsewhere, collected together they comprise a formidable and fascinating look at a future full of ectopias.

Comment author: Jack 26 April 2010 11:33:20PM 1 point [-]

I mean it certainly sounds like there is a lot of eco-primitivism involved. But I'm going to go find a copy of "Bears Discover Fire" which sounds awesome.

Comment author: Tyrrell_McAllister 26 April 2010 11:39:52PM 1 point [-]

Apparently you can listen to an audio version of it for free here:



Comment author: Document 22 March 2011 09:58:41AM 0 points [-]

Like this? I don't know much about it besides what I've read in forum threads such as here, here and here, though.

Comment author: Tyrrell_McAllister 22 March 2011 11:49:21PM *  2 points [-]

Like this?

Yes. Jack mentioned that one in this comment from this thread. From what I could gather through Amazon, it looks like it's probably a strong example of anti-tech green utopian fiction.

Nonetheless, the vast majority of Green utopias that I've seen (which is not, I admit, a huge sample) are not anti-tech, but rather pro-Green tech. They tend to be very optimistic about the level of technology that can be supported with "renewable" energy sources and environmentally-friendly industries.