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Why do you take the time to make 2 comments, but not take the time to speak clearly? Mysteriousness is not an argument.
Banal translation:
No, that is not the argument implied when making references to paperclipping. That is a silly argument that is about a whole different problem to paperclipping. It is ironic that your straw man claim is, in fact, the straw man.
But it would seem our disagreement if far more fundamental than what a particular metaphor means:
Suppose Clippy takes over this galaxy. Does Clippy stop then and make paperclips, or continue immediately expansion to the next galaxy?
Suppose Clippy takes over this universe. Does Clippy stop then and make paperclips, or continue to other universes?
Does your version of Clippy ever get to make any paperclips?
(The paper clips are a lie, Clippy!)
Does Clippy completely trust future Clippy, or spatially-distant Clippy, to make paperclips?
At some point, Clippy is going to start discounting the future, or figure that the probability of owning and keeping the universe is very low, and make paperclips. At that point, Clippy is non-competitive.
Whatever is likely to produce more paperclips.
Whatever is likely to produce more paperclips. Including dedicating resources to figuring out if that is physically possible.
Yes.
Yes.
A superintelligence that happens to want to make paperclips is extremely viable. This is utterly trivial. I maintain my rejection of the below claim and discontinue my engagement in this line of enquiry. It is just several levels of confusion.